A man in the Philippines cannot legally commit adultery! No doubt, a woman didn’t write that law. Do you find that hard to believe? I probably would without verification. In the Philippines, adultery is not even grounds for an annulment. Annulments have to be based on conditions that were present at the time of marriage. There is no divorce in the Philippines. If the woman was coerced into it, that could be grounds. Even then, if she later accepts her husband willingly she can’t use that as grounds for an annulment. Or, if the spouse was insane at the time of the wedding then they can get an annulment. I think I would try arguing that I had to be insane since I married this mean horrible person. :) I doubt it is that easy.
Here is the law that covers adultery for those living in the Philippines:
The Revised Penal Code defines “adultery” in
Article 333 as follows: “Adultery is committed
by any married woman who shall have sexual
intercourse with a man not her husband and by
the man who has carnal knowledge of her
knowing her to be married, even if the marriage
be subsequently declared void. Adultery shall
be punished by prision correccional in its medium
and maximum periods.”
Does this mean if you are a man that you are in the clear? Nope, for two reasons. If you are in a relationship with a married woman then you are just as guilty and you too can be charged and even put in prison. For how long? Two to Twelve years!
Don’t panic, I don’t think this happens very often. It is more likely that a husband would charge you and accept a payment to drop the charges. But a wife cannot charge her husband with adultery. Not fair you say? I won’t argue with you. Remember though, foreigners do not have the right too free speech and Filipino do not want our opinions. Giving them can get you into trouble with immigration and even deported! Choose your words wisely.
So then can the husband have all the extra-marital affairs he wants without fear of legal problems? Nope, he can’t. There is another law that covers that. He can be charged with concubinage if he has relations with another woman in the family home or if it happens under scandalous circumstances or if he cohabits with her. Proving this is hard under the law than adultery is. Tsismis (gossip) will not get you very far unless two or three people can confirm it. Did they actually see it or is it hearsay?
I was stunned when I read this nearly three years ago. It was a real eye-opener for me. You may only be going to the other side of the planet but you are going into another world. It is not your world, it is Asia. It is the home of the Filipino and they generally like the way it is. If you are going to live in the Philippines, you will need to make some adjustments and you will need to educate yourself. Never assume it is like home. It is the Philippines.
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“He can be charged with concubinage if he has relations with another woman in the family home or if it happens under scandalous circumstances or if he cohabits with her.”
So if they do the deed in a cave, forests, or motel he can’t be charged?
Now I know the reason for the proliferation of short-term (hourly rates) motel in the cities.
Seriously though, there are other recourse for the woman. I will have to double check on the revised penal code, but I am sure that abandoning your responsibilities as a husband is a crime also. Hence most lawyers would go for this rather than concubinage because it has more chances of a success.
Yes there are penalties for abandoning your family responsibilities but it is rarely enforced because the abandoned often have no income.
As for a cave, only if it is “scandalous” whatever that means. With the way that many think on this subject in the Philippines, I’m not sure how it could ever be not scandalous.
good pm.i am married with one son,and im decided to separate to my husband because his cousin told me that he has mentally disorder and i dont love him anymore.he cant support us.after a year ago i met a black guy who gave me everything.and he decided to came to philippines.and my husband filed us adultery.they say they took some picture in facebook but not daring only hug and kiss in public place.is the picture can use as strong evidence?and also i filed annulment last february.is there tendency that my annulment dismiss.how is the costudy to my son he still 4 years old.what happen to me and to my boyfriend if they prove the adultery case?pls help me i don`t know what to do now
I’m sorry Ashley, I don’t have any answers for you. I would love to know how it all works out.
I wish I could help you but I just don’t have any answers. If you’re new partner is helping you still, you two need to go see a lawyer and the sooner the better.
With due respect to the author, I want to make a correction regarding the contents of this article and add some details about the crime of adultery. I am a law student here in the Philippines and I want to clear some legal matters discussed in the article.
THE CORRECTION: The penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods is not 2 to 12 years but 2 YEARS, 4 MONTHS AND 1 DAY TO 6 YEARS only. Prision correccional has only a maximum period of 6 years and not 12 years. The time included in the penalty in its entirety is from 6 months and 1 day to 6 years. (Art. 27 Revised Penal Code)
WHO CAN FILE THE ACTION FOR ADULTERY?
The husband only. He is the offended spouse in the crime of adultery. He is the only one who can initiate an action against his wife and her paramour.
CAN A WIFE FILE A CASE OF ADULTERY AGAINST HER HUSBAND WHO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH A MARRIED WOMAN NOT HIS WIFE?
No, it falls under another crime and that is concubinage. In the crime of concubinage it is now the wife who is the offended party and the one who can initiate the case of concubinage against her husband. Concubinage is harder to prove than adultery since in concubinage the wife must not only prove the fact of sexual intercourse but also the fact that it was done under scandalous circumstances. In adultery, the husband needs only to prove the mere fact of sexual intercourse.
WHO ARE THE PERSONS THE OFFENDED HUSBAND MUST FILE A CASE FOR ADULTERY?
Both his wife and the paramour. The husband CANNOT file the case only against the paramour. This applies if both the wife and the paramour is still alive. Death of either the wife or the paramour during the pendency of the case will not extinguish the proceedings. Neither will it be extinguished by the death of the husband if the case has already been filed.
HOW CAN THE HUSBAND PROVE THE SEXUAL ACT BETWEEN THE WIFE AND HER PARAMOUR?
The husband can prove it by mere circumstantial evidence. Direct proof of the sexual act is not necessary to sustain conviction for adultery. It is seldom that adultery can be established by direct evidence.
Examples of such circumstantial evidence:
1.) Love letters
2.) Having been together in different places
3.) Photograph showing the intimate relations of the wife and the paramour
4.) Testimony of a witness that the wife and her paramour were sleeping together or living in the same dwelling
MUST THE PARAMOUR KNOW THAT THE WIFE IS MARRIED AT THE TIME OF THE SEXUAL ACT?
Yes, he must know that the woman he is sleeping with is married otherwise he is not liable for adultery. The Revised Penal Code says, “by the man who has carnal knowledge of her KNOWING her to be married”.
DOES EACH SEXUAL INTERCOURSE CONSTITUTES A CRIME OF ADULTERY?
Yes, each sexual intercourse constitutes a crime of adultery. Adultery is not a continuing offense.
WHAT IF THE MARRIAGE BE SUBSEQUENTLY DECLARED VOID?
The husband may still file a case for adultery. It is not necessary that there be a valid marriage between the husband and the wife. So long as they are married when the wife committed the act.
WILL THE DEFENSE OF THE WIFE THAT SHE WAS ABANDONED BY HER HUSBAND EXEMPT HER FROM THE CRIME OF ADULTERY?
No, she will still be liable, however, she is entitled to a lower penalty. This benefit will be extended to the paramour.
WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF CONSENT OR PARDON OF THE WIFE?
If there was consent or pardon the part of the husband, the criminal case for adultery will be extinguished.
Requirements of pardon:
1.) Pardon must come BEFORE the filing of the case
2.) BOTH the offenders must be pardoned by the offended party.
The Two kinds of pardon:
1.) Express pardon – when the husband puts in writing that he pardons the sexual infidelity of his wife
2.) Implied consent – when the husband continues to live with his wife or subsequently have sexual intercourse with her after knowledge of his wife’s infidelity.
WHAT IS THE GIST OF THE CRIME OF ADULTERY?
It is the danger of introducing spurious heirs into the family, where the rights of the real heirs may be impaired and a man may be charged with the maintenance of a family not his own. (U.S. v. Mata, 18 Phil. 490)
Thanks Pedro,
You know, trying to figure out that prison medium and prison maximum has not been easy. Does the period of time change for prison medium or maximum based on which crime was broken. It appears to me that it does change as I’ve seen different sentences.
What are the other prison length terms and if you can break down the different periods for jail for each, that would be nice. Something I’ve really struggled with trying to understand.
One is easy, something like prison perpetua = life
Isn’t there also a prison mayor, something like that.
So once the husband files charges, he can’t withdraw them? Suppose he said he made it up, could he then be charged with filing a false case or maybe even perjury?
Would love to have you stick around and help me out on the legal issues that I try to tackle for other expats. Though, I always caution, I’m no lawyer and I could easily not get it right.
I’ve learned enough to know that I can’t make inferences in law based on American law and apply it to Philippines law in all cases, ad even if I could, I’m just a layman with a bit more practice at reading law than most people.
I’ve said it many times, I’ll say it again, I am not a lawyer. All I can really do is alert people to general concepts, when it comes to apply these things, you need professional assistance!
I’m just an ordinary citizen and know a few about laws. But this article still gave me a shock. I told my student about this (and he’s a foreigner), and he said what kind of law was that. (I didn’t tell him about concubinage) Nevertheless, I find it unfair. Adultery for women and concubinage for men? Basing on your words, concubinage is harder to prove than adultery. That’s unfair enough. This is the farthest I can understand this article. Thanks for the information though.
I read the law and did some research on several sites on the topic from Filipino lawyers. When I read the law on concubinage it seemed difficult to prove but one of the lawyers said it required a higher level of evidence.
Tsismis wont do it. A lot of Filipino are surprised by this, One tried to correct me, an OFW, but he was just wrong. Only a man can bring charges against a woman and he must bring them against both the woman and the man. I suppose that prevents some blackmail by seduction scams.
It is not my place to comment on the fairness of the law. However, it is your place to do so and I’m glad you did.
I suspect it will be changed at some point but someone will have to make an issue out of it.
ok here goes…i have been married for 3 yrs now, my wife has a child from a previous relationship and her and i also have a child together. the father of her other child left when the child was little and started another family, well thats what i was told anyway. i recently filed a petition for my wife and step daughter,a few months later i can sense the change in my wifes attitude and i have noticed someone else is there at her house other than her relative. i have seen her family and her trying to hide the cam turning it standing in front of it so i can’t see this person walk pass. i have heard him there while on the phone to my wife , my wife and her family always deny and say that it is her brother. now i have stayed there with my wife and her family for over a year, i think i know their voices, right?..well after grilling my wife, she finally admitted that she doesn’t love me any more and said that she is still inlove with her x. i also have conversations where she has said they were doing sex acts infront of my child and while on yahoo with me. just unbelievable. i am here in the usa i would really like some help on filing a case against my wife and some help on how to get my son from her. how can i file a caseagainst her for this?
thanks,
gary
Gary, Oh my what a mess.
If you’re child wasn’t involved the answer would be to divorce her in the USA and walk away. I fear that may be your only option anyway. I know how hard that can be. It can be impossible. Your daughter needs you in her life. You don’t have to come to the Philippines for this to happen to you. Something similar happened to me right in the USA. It left a scar, no, an open wound that will never heal completely. Not the woman, I got over her but it took a long time.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that she is legally married to the man. If that turns out to be true you can still file charges.
I wonder if a guy came to the Philippines, married a woman that was married to another could be charged with adultery. It may seem crazy but with the law, nothing seems to be impossible.
You’ll need a lawyer Gary, a Filipino lawyer. Do not get one from her home town unless you have solid references from someone you trust.
I know this might be hard with the daughter involved but cut off the funds. She’s probably counting on you continuing support for your daughter, I would discuss that with a lawyer first.
There are some special provision in the law for when one of the parties in a marriage hides the fact that they were married. I don’t now if that includes common law marriage or not.
If she was married, and she didn’t have the capacity to marry I don’t know if you can file anything on her. If she was married and you knew it, you’re done dude.
There is also the possibility that if you file charges, she’ll have you killed. The rate I often see for a hired gun is P4000. Reported in the press, I don’t personally know any hired guns that I know of.
Really sorry that this happened to you and your child.
I’m glad you shared it though, people need to know.
Gary, to file a case, you walk into a court and file it. You need a lawyer.
I hope you’ll keep us informed on how this turns out.
I might consider trying to get her into the USA anyway if she will come. i know that sounds crazy but then you’ll be in a lot better legal footing.
Maybe you should contact the embassy in Manila or Washington. I’d really like to know how this turns out. It would be very educational for the rest of us. For you, I see a lot of pain which I’m sure you already have.
Remember Gary, you will get through this. Not all things truly pass, not all things are “this too will pass” but all things do get easier.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE. I’M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TO DO, I’M STILL IN SHOCK OVER THE WHOLE SITUATION. I’M MORE SHOCKED THAT HER FAMILY IS ALLOWING HIM TO STAY THERE IN THEIR HOME. I STAYED THERE WITH HER AND HER FAMILY FOR OVER A YEAR, I NEVER THOUGHT IN MY WILDEST DREAMS THIS WOULD HAPPEN. THEY SEEMED LIKE A NORMAL CHRISTIAN FAMILY. THEY GOTO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY, VERY WELL LIKED BY EVERYONE, IT JUST SEEMS UNREAL.
AS FAR AS GETTING HER HERE, I ALREADY FILED THE PETITION IN MAY 2011 SHOULD BE GETTING A DECISION HERE SOON, YEPEEE!(BEING SARCASTIC)LOL
I DOUBT SHE WILL BE WILLING TO COME HERE NOW, WE AREN’T EVEN SPEAKING.
WHEN I CALL HER SHE WILL SAY ITS MY IMAGINATION, BUT I STILL HEAR HIM CALLING HER IN THE BACKGROUND! SHE WON’T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, LIKE WHY, WHEN HOW, NOTHING. SHE TOTALLY AVOIDS THE SITUATION AND BLAMES ME, SAYING IF YOU DON’T WANT ME THEN YOU CAN LEAVE ME.SHE ALWAYS TWIST AND TURNS EVERYTHING AROUND, EVEN IF YOU CATCH HER IN A LIE SHE WILL NEVER ADMIT IT.
TO LET EVERYONE KNOW I AM 32 YRS OLD AND MY WIFE IS 28, SO IT DOESN’T MATTER AGE,THEY SCAM WHOEVER THEY CAN OR WHOEVER IS GULLIBLE ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THEM, JUST SUCKS THAT IT HAPPENED TO ME !
I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED, THANKS FOR REPLYING
Gary, don’t beat yourself up. It happens a lot. This is Rusty on Jessie’s account.
I wont be around much for the next couple of days
Gary I think your VERY 1st step would be to finda private detective in PI and get proof that they are living together. Even better if you can get proof of sexual acts or any type of written love letter or ect. Finding a private detective that has testified in court might be even better. I think aftwr you get then you may be able to go after them in PI cout and get them jailed for adultry. Make sure you have all your paperwork for you kid so you can prove he is yours. It seems she is being smarter about it now as she is refusing to talk about it at all so proof may be a bit harder to come by. You can find programs for the computer that will record your desktop like a movie try web cam chatting her or even google phone and record the conversations. Think before hand on how to get here to admit the sex acts again.
wow what a mess I am glad my fiancee in a near virgin ,,,,,, my questions are ,,,,,If we marry and her best friend or sister want to be practicly living with us or moves in or goes to bed with us is that a crime ??????????????????????/ i know its a dream hahhaha but is it a crime ????????????? because I am know finding out her sis is unwed and in need of help and support please give me a heads up befor i even consider any thing like this later u all thks Brett
Brett, best to email me on this one. rusty@cebuexperience.com
And you need my book dude.
Sounds like fun, sound like danger. Legal/Illegal? debatable. the way you’ve presented it here perhaps illegal.
If you move in with your girlfriend, you’re married here. Could set you up for concubine. Tying it to being need of help and support could be human trafficking. 
Rusty,
Not long ago on cable tv. there was a show on National Geo (I think?) About an English chap who had been talking on line to a Filipina.
I believe she had said that she was married, but that her husband beat her!
So this guy being in love? Goes to the Phils. He meets up with her and they start to cohabitate. Then the husband comes into the picture and thing got really nasty. The girls family were actually hiding them from her husband. Who eventually had both of them arrested and jailed, oh and by the way at this point she was pregnant!!They tried the British Embassy for help, but that got them nowhere.
Somehow they managed to escape from jail and then got some ID and fled the country. They are now married living in the UK and have two kids.
I hate to think of the other ways this could’ve turned out.
Marc
That story made the press here. If I recall they took a boat to Hong Kong to get out of here. That happened not long after I got here. Was an eye opener. I never thought that adultery could get one thrown in jail. About a year later, I discovered only the husband can file charges for adultery.
The law makers had sense enough to write the law so that both the wife and her lover both go to jail. Otherwise, couples could and some would set others up. He has to charge them both. This is still sometimes used to extort money. Hubby threatens to file charges if he is not paid off. So there is still the opportunity there for couples to worth together in this. It doesn’t happen a lot but it does happen.
Charges of rape can be used in the same way. That one is even more scary to me. I’m surprised that isn’t used more. It is something a single guy in the Philippines needs to be aware of.
I’m from the Philippines. I think my mother has another man aside from my father. My father is working at the other province, and he only go home once a month. I always hear my mother talking (whispering) in her phone. Also, every Sunday she always goes out. She always has an alibi that she will just go in her classmate’s house. I also saw an anonymous number in call register. I copied the number, yet I don’t know if I will contact it or not. When I confront her, again she said that she’s just talking with her classmate. I don’t think so anyone talks with their classmate like that (whispering)? Then when I enter her room, she puts down her cellphone. I want to know what I can do about this. I want to be sure with my thoughts. Hope you can help.
Hi Kim, I’m sorry that you are so distressed and honored that you ask me for help.
I am sorry but I don’t really have any help for you. I don’t think you’re going to be able to do what I think you should do. I think you should ignore it. Since you’re so distressed, I don’t see that as an option for you.
Your mom could be talking about many things she doesn’t want you to know about. Not saying you’re wrong, children usually know when these things are going on. The thing is, I don’t think there is much you can do about it. The stress regarding the situation is not doing you any good. So I suggest you try not to feel like you are obligated to do anything. It will work itself out. Hopefully in a god way.
We all have our faults and I think it is best to accept them in others and within ourselves too. Try to change our own, but it can be very hard to even see our own faults.
hi there! i currently have a 4 month intimate relationship with my boyfriend (officemate), he is currently married for 2 years now with 2 kids but their relationship has turned sour already even before i came in the picture. they have agreed to file annulment but has not acted on it yet. his wife also knows about our relationship but has recently acted differently because she said that it just struck her now that she has saw pictures of me and my boyfriend in facebook last 2 months ago and has decided to stay at her parents house, leaving the kids with my boyfriend.
his wife has recently filed a SUBPOENA for adultery including my boyfriend’s name and mine. confused and dont know what to do now.
pls help..
i don’t think anyone is going to have the answers for you. But I understand the need to talk. Probably only time will provide the answers. I’m sorry you’re going through such a painful period.
I’m really confused about this comment. You are not in the Philippines. A woman cannot file adultery charges against her husband in the Philippines. She can file concubinage though. That is according to a Philippines lawyer’s website. I don’t have the link to it. I suppose it is possible there could have been a change in that law. But I don’t think so.
This is my experience with these situations, when you get in a relationship with someone that has not ended their prior relationship that person will likely do the same to you. It is an easy thing to fall into but it rarely ends well.
Hi torchkins,honestly so hard on that situation, the best thing that you can do is stop seeing this guy before your life get miserable.And you said he is your officemate try to ignore him and try to move on. And get a better man, you deserve some one better than him.No one can answer your question, someday you will understand if you will have your own family. I have a question for you if you don’t mind,so you did not break-up with him? And until now your still together?
Hi Syreal, I couldn’t agree more. One lesson I learned a long time ago, a cheater will always cheat. If they cheat with you, they will later cheat on you. So never get in a relationship with someone that is already in one!!!! Of course, once your in it, harder to stop.
Ok…till me what happens, if the paramour just met once or twice; has no idea that the girl is married during the acts and finds her marital status only after a few weeks… does it give enuf grounds to be not proven guilty …
I’m no lawyer but once is enough if there is evidence.
well..no evidence exists..and that the client wasnt even aware of the girl’s social status when they met …wat shud be done…Legal husband is framing case based on unconfirmed rumours
If I were you, I’d be talking to a lawyer to find out how much evidence is enough for him to file a case.
He’s probably blowing smoke but if he smells money you could find yourself with him trying to file a case. I have no idea what it takes to file charges or to get the actual conviction. I personally wouldn’t want to be waiting for bail to be set. He may just want you to stay away from her. He can’t file just on you, he has to charge both of you. If he’s done with her he won’t care.
You need a lawyer.
Does this law of the husband being able to file charges against the wife also include a non-national(I.e American/European) husband against a filipina wife. To explain my situation…. I am due to meet a woman in a weeks time in Philippines who I met online. She is a friend of a girl I know from PI. I have only talked to her online. I’m delighted to have come across this website before I go ahead with anything and hope you can give me some guidance on the legal implications of me meeting up with her. She claims her husband to be having sex with many other women and that she has given up on him, an American national. She has been married and living with him for 4 years. Any advice/help much appreciated
I don’t know for sure. My guess is that he can. Searching the web might reveal that answer.
What you describe is true for most women in the Philippines. It is common for men in the Philippines to have a mistress or maybe I should say it is not uncommon. My perception is that a Westerner would be less likely to do that than a Filipino. With a Filipino the issue of pride will also come into play and it would be a good way to end up dead. You’d be better off finding a woman that does not have this issue. As of now, there is no divorce in the Philippines and annulments are not a sure thing and can take a long time. It really depends on the man she’s married too. If she’s living with him, there is no way I’d do it. I learned long ago, that a woman that will get involved with a new relationship when she hasn’t ended the current one will most likely do it to the new guy over time.
Hello, I am from Europe and I am visiting my new gf in the Philippines.
She s from Europe and she is actually divorcing with her filipino husband.
They where married in Europe. What are the risk for me and my new gf? Thank you.
Hello Oyola, you could be putting yourself at great risk.
If she’s a citizen of the Philippines, her divorce will not be recognized in the Philippines since he too is Filipino. For it to stand up here, one must be a foreigner. If not, they have to go through the annulment process. If she lived here, she knows that.
If she spent her whole life in Europe then once she gets a divorce no issue at all.
If she comes here married and moves in with you, you both could be thrown in jail. Its totally at the mercy and determination of her husband. So it all depends on him. You’ll have to be the one to judge that.
Thank you. But they are actually finalizing the divorce here in Europe.
She s not filipino, but lives in the filipines. They also dont live together since one year. She told me that he Will not make trouble when I come. But can I really trust what she told me?
In the worst case, what should I do? I can say that I know the story and thought she was allready divorced. Will they arrested us before the process or if not, we can take the first plane for Europe? I m very worried now
“She told me that he Will not make trouble when I come. But can I really trust what she told me?”
Only you can answer that if you knew the girl really, really, really well. Your life could be in danger if the former husband is a jealous type even if they are separated/divorcing. Assassins can be hired over there for as little as $2000.
If the girl is a foreign national, why not meet her in a neutral country like Thailand or Malaysia?
Sarah, they can be hired for $100. I would have said the same thing you did. Oyola, if she’s not Filipina then she can get divorced any place. She’s not getting a divorce here. Things don’t make sense.
$100 for an assassin?? WOW! Life is cheaper than I thought!
But I agree with you Rusty, there’s a lot that don’t make sense here. Oyola, is your GF European national by birth or Filipina by birth but acquired European citizenship? If the latter, then you’re treading into troubled waters.
Death too Sarah, death too.
Not all things are cheaper. Some are higher like electronics, gasoline and electricity. Services are very cheap. That’s why the people are so poor.
No, her ex-husband his no jealouse, and he his peacefull.
Before I met her, they were allready divorcing and both of them have other new relation.
She’s going to meet him this week, maybe to discuss about that. He allready know that she as a new bf, even before me.
I just want to be prudent for my gf and me, I heard about that: the criminal charge cannot prosper if the offended spouse has consented to the offense or pardoned the offenders.
So if they express that on a paper, we won’t get any problem with the justice.
Thank you for your help
Such a document has been held to be un-enforceable in the Philippines. Two attorney got into hot water with a judge for drafting such a document as the jduge said it was established long ago that such a document could not be honored and the husband could still file charges for adultery.
Oyola, I think what you want is for someone to tell you everything will be okay, we can’t do that. It might be or it might not be. You are in a far better position to determine that yourself. I can tell you’ve got your heart set on this girl. Good luck with it and I hope it goes well!
Sahara, my gf is european. What do you mean about “troubled water” ?
Ouffff… My gf and her ex bf got a discussion today, he knows that i am coming and there will be no problem he said. They are in a good therms, despite all.
They are separeted since more then one year and he s starting a new life. Everthing will be allright.
Oy, I was being sincere when I wish you good luck. I hope it all goes very well and you find the girl of your dreams.
I agree with Rusty, you have set your heart on this girl, so good luck.
Haven’t we all been there Sarah?
Warning Sarah, I’m a flirt. Its a hobby for me. You’ve been away from the Philippines long enough I can use the word without shocking you. In the USA, flirting is something people do. Mini ego boost I think. In the Philippines that is a bad word. It doesn’t have the same meaning.
I rarely mean anything with my flirts.
Flirting? Oh, I get enough of that with my patients here Rusty
So that’s nothing new 