The Department of Tourism has announced new reforms coming to the Philippines tourist visa. Changes that will make it cost less and allow you to stay longer. So far there is not a lot of information about the six month stay for retirees.
Six Month Long Term Stay For Tourist Visa
There was a short mention of it on a Philippines government website. I missed it when I first read the
article. I was already bored with it when I got to that point. The Philippines is very close to extended the length of the initial visit from 21 to 30 days for 166 countries and allowing Chinese and Indians stay longer too. Honestly, the extra nine days did little more than cause me to yawn. If I was a short timer it would matter. I’m not so it has virtually no effect on me.
At the end of the article this statement was made:
Other policy reforms are currently being reviewed by a working group composed of representatives from the Department of Tourism, Department of Foreign Affairs, and Bureau of Immigration, including a special long-stay visa for active retirees.
Rumors in the forum are that this long term visa will be for six months. I haven’t read it that close to know where the rumor came from. I found nothing on it after searching Google and others have not found anything on the Philippines immigration site. I suspect that the Bureau of Immigration (BI) is not all that keen on the subject myself. For reasons, jaded as they may be, were explained in our Philippines forum.
Now six months free stay, that doesn’t make me yawn. Two less trips to the BI would be just fine with me. For retirees though, so we will likely need to prove that. Governments don’t like to make things easier without throwing a few complications into the mix for us. I think its just the nature of governing. Lets face it, the governments are likely full of control freaks, even inside the more laid back Philippines.
In my case, they may not be familiar with the Office of Personnel Management and be looking for a social security document. I’m sure it will be okay though. I have found the people at immigration very easy to deal with myself. Not a bit of problems for myself. You can bet if I ever have one, I’ll be writing about it. The only people I’ve seen acting badly at BI are Americans that are full of themselves.
Be Respectful When Extending Your Tourist Visa
One guy was told to stop raising his voice to an officer there. He asked her what she would do if he didn’t stop. She answered in the matter of fact but polite way Filipino usually deliver a non-polite message. She simply said “I may deport you, sir.”
Also when you visit a BI office, be sure you don’t wear shorts and no sandals. If you do, you might not get in. Those expats that love to complain about this. Come on, its not that big of deal. The office considers that disrespectful too. If it bugs you that much, go home, this clearly isn’t home for you.
That seem to deflate some of his self importance and he went back to his seat and waited it out like a normal human being. He was disrespectful and that is not tolerated in the Filipino culture. Unless he changed his ways, I doubt living in the Philippines turned out all that well. I think though, many of us might change us to some extent. I’m not very mellow but I’m more mellow than I use to be.
On a personal note, I have been incredibly busy lately. It seems all my tools I use are breaking. I mean my internet tools. I have been making a lot of changes though. I spent several hours putting the site in the cloud. I tried it about a year ago and it broke the site every few days. So I killed it.
I tried it again over the last couple of weeks on my other sites. Then I put this one in too. After about three days, this site pushed the bill up over $100 so, I took it back out of the cloud. haha I’m watching the billing. It makes the site load about 1 to 2 seconds faster.
I’ve spent most of the day working on presenting video better. That doesn’t auto play for one. Getting video into a WordPress site is not easy. WordPress tends to break it. Also, its slow over Youtube so I keep my videos in the cloud already when possible.
All these changes and all this work has been keeping me away from my favorite place. I’m working long hours. This is a heck of a way to run a retirement. But since I want to travel around the Philippines, I need to work.
I’m also fairly sick. Scleroderma has been kicking my butt. Mostly just causing extreme fatigue and I have had a real hard time staying focused. I am taking Prednisone again though and that might be playing a role in the lack of focus. That’s enough of my personal problems. ha ha
These two pictures were taken on my first trip to a BI office. It was a little satellite office located in Tacloban City Philippines. They seemed a little suspicious of me. They didn’t like that I lived in Cebu but was extending in Tacloban. I explained that I had come to visit my girl’s family and it was time to renew so I did it there. They accepted that answer.
Then they wanted to know why I was taking pictures. I thought it was odd to ask at the time. Now I know they are worried about security. But do I look like a terrorist? Maybe you shouldn’t answer that. I explained to put it on my website and tell others about the Philippines which brought nothing but silence. The most surprising question was the first one. The lady behind the desk asked, “Did you marry a Filipina?” to which I said no. She did seem to like I was there to see Jessie’s family though. Perhaps protecting the welfare of a Filipina for a human trafficker. If so, its okay, just doing her job. That was all very official. I was in and out pretty fast, just like in Cebu City.
It was pretty casual in this office though. Not in mannerism in dealing with me. It reminded me of the difference in the IRS office when I worked in Clarksdale Mississippi office compared to the office in Jackson or Memphis Tennessee.
It is far from a done deal yet but I’m hoping this six month stay comes to pass. Being able to stay for six months free will be nice if it comes to pass. It cuts back on the fees BI collects though. I won’t be holding my breath but I’ll be watching and informing when I find out. If the Republic of the Philippines does allow us to stay under a six months tourist visa it will be reported here as soon as I know about it.
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keep up the good work cebu great places there in philippines hope we can stay longer too thanks.
Its not problem to stay for 16 months, you just have to keep going back to BI every 60 days.
Thanks Charles!
yes thanks good new to stay longer there thanks agaon for all your good work on here .
I seen it on the Ninoy Aquino (P-Noy) Facebook page a few weeks ago.
You saw which it? It was announced on 3/28.
The six months thing that or the 30 days?
I follow his page but I have so much stuff on my wall, I miss most things.
I don’t get much time for visiting other pages any more.
In Cebu BI they have relaxed the long pants rule, can wear shorts and sandals now, has been that way for quite a while.
Really?
True as I sit here mate, did not bother me before as Liezel used to do all the paperwork and I would sit outside and smoke, but alas no more I have quit the filthy habit. Thanks for the add mate.
I use to enjoy it, any chance to get out and see how the Philippines operates was cool to me.I wanted to know if it was bad as most had told me. Its not even close to being that way.
After four years of bimonthly trips to the PI, I”m a little burned out on them. haha
Greg, I'm not following you. The put those rules back into place only about six months ago. Are you certain they already relaxed them again. I haven't gone to the office in a while as I use an agent. So I could have fallen behind the times but I'm not sure. If I were going, I'd wear long pants to be on the safe side. One time there was a guy outside the Cebu office renting long pants and regular shoes. Filipino tend to be an enterprising bunch of folks.
I am really curious if they relaxed them again but if so, even if I'm of for six months, that's not "quite a while" in my mind. I knew they'd relax it again and I'm sure they will bring it back again. haha
Living in The Philippines. The Cebu Experience : they told me two weeks ago that they would let me in that time but next time I had to have the right clothes. When I came back a week later, I was dressed well and he thanked me. I guess for taking him seriously.
When I walked in with 7 passports to extend, all of us white Americans, I got some confused looks:) Big family, what can I say!
I guess I must have been in the middle somewhere as all I know is the last time I was in there I was in shorts and sandals and there was no problems, I respect the rule as it their country but it is a bit stupid in a tropical country to have that sort of dress code.
Terry is exactly the reason they should tighten up, rather than loosen, the visa rules.
Hey Terry, wanna take a guess at the penalty for Filipinos overstaying a US visa?
Hey John, seems like a full moon today. I’m glad I’m already burned out on complaining people. They can’t rile me up. Sure is a too much of that going on in the forum, it keeps me out of it sometimes. I just can’t take the complaining about every little thing and they even miss the good stuff.
There were two burglaries reported in the Talisay last month. TWO A city deep in poverty and with a quarter million people are so. And all they can do is complain about the dangers of the Philippines? Now I went and got myself upset. haha Like I say, its all how you see the world.
I don’t think they’d deport you for that but the probably could. They probably could here too. Oh my, he had to pay $2 a day. Shocking.
He left the comment via FaceBook, either my connection is weak or FB is having problems. So I’m going to wait for it to resolve before I reply.
Several messages don’t have a reply button. It is possible he deleted his message. I don’t now.
He should delete it. That complaining would be more likely to get him into real trouble than the overstay. Ask Jimmy, the film maker. I can’t remember how to spell his last name.
Your long pants and sandles comment pisses me off the most, I shouldn't retire in the Philippines if I get pissed off at stupidity…yer right..
And the fact that I may live in the Philippines never makes it "home" never..if I wanted it to be my home id migrate.
I did migrate. I'm not sure what you mean by migrate. If you live in the Philippines then you did migrate.Or perhaps I don't understand the word. It wouldn't be the first time.
I'm really kind of tired of all the complaining over petty stuff myself. But yes, even if it makes you mad if things like that cause the Philippines to be unpleasant, why stay? I think it is pretty reasonable question.
Ok so looks like im not using the word migrate properly as it simply means to move, what's it called when you move permanently and like take on citizenship?…because that's what i call migrating.
If one is living somewhere on some type of visa then i call that visiting…if your living somewhere without a visa that's what i call home, IE where you come from or where you have chosen to become a citizen.
Why stay or visit if things annoy me? its simply a case of the positives out weighing the negatives.
Thank you Rusty, like good news for us who want a longer stay in the Philippines with time.
You're welcome. For now, I don't see much of a reason to celebrate. It sure hs created a lot of buzz though.
I'm not sure what is going on with the some of the FB comments on this article. Several showed up that can't be replied to but they are not within the FaceBook system at all. Someone might have deleted their comment. Anyway, there were some questions I can't reply to because of whatever went wrong. Since they are not on FB at all, I think it is a FB issue.
Leo Cooper, what five month visa? In the Philippines? I didn't know there was such a visa?
Hi Rusty,
Today, April 12, 2012 – I am still looking after a friends house here in the Philippines and so had to get my 2 month Visa extension in San Fernando, La Union. Big handwritten sign on the door says “long pants and shoes”. Also, I asked about “How many months” can I fill-in, in the “How Many months?” box. “One or two” was the answer. That was today. Maybe next time comes the 6 month chance.
Say, how much do you pay in pesos for a 2 month extension? My bill came to PHP 5940.50 + PHP 1500 express fee. That express fee just went up 500 pesos! – Almost 7500 pesos. Inflation.
Yeah, I thought it was odd being asked a lot of questions about my fiance at the BI and my intentions to her, and not just the first visit, but two visits in a row…same questions about my girl and about how I earn a living.
This last visit, however, went fast. I was in and out of there pronto.
I haven’t had that happen. Probably a younger woman would be more likely to cause that and probably more likely in Luzon or certain areas of Mindanao. They are probing for hints of human trafficking. The closest I ever came to a question in that area was “Have you married a Filipina?” But it didn’t go any deeper than that.
As for the lighters, I suggest you have three of them. You get out on an a remote island and have it fall apart, you’re not going to be happy. haha I bought one in a department store that is no disposable. Had it for a year and a half. Its very good but seems the butane is not lasting as long. It has probably develeoped some leaks now. Thing will burn your face off it your not careful.
WOW all this about long or short pants or shoes or slippers or not or do or not.
Me I just wear nice shirt long pants and shoes just as you would on a job or showing respect.
I shower shave and put on a clean “aloha” shirt; neat and clean blue jeans and my “swat” black polished boots. They are made from breathable nylon.
When I first showed up I was “eyed” allot since they didn’t know what was up; but found out this “American” was polite and didn’t yell as some “Americans” they have encountered.
Regardless moving here or long time visiting and the word is ‘visiting” YOU are still a “Visitor”.
Act like you would in your wife’s or Girlfriends Families House..
It goes a very long way when you come back for renewal..